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		<title>By: esophageal spasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>esophageal spasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, fantastic weblog layout! How long have you ever been running a blog for? you make blogging look easy. The whole look of your site is fantastic, well the content material!</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Landon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71--You&#039;re right. And with that, there&#039;s no need for me to play anymore.

Be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71&#8211;You&#039;re right. And with that, there&#039;s no need for me to play anymore.</p>
<p>Be well.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Knilands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Knilands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming in the year 2026:

Dave Kindred smooths any ruffled feathers from the &quot;Steroid Era,&quot; long after the accused players have retired.

I hope I am alive to see that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming in the year 2026:</p>
<p>Dave Kindred smooths any ruffled feathers from the &quot;Steroid Era,&quot; long after the accused players have retired.</p>
<p>I hope I am alive to see that one.</p>
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		<title>By: charles pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay --
In this business, the difference between being incorrect, even garishly so,&#160;and telling a deliberate falsehood is all the difference in the world.
Thank you for playing again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay &#8211;<br />
In this business, the difference between being incorrect, even garishly so,&nbsp;and telling a deliberate falsehood is all the difference in the world.<br />
Thank you for playing again.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kindred was not incorrect in the estimation of the odds of female to male transmission of HIV.&#160; It is a much less prevalent form of transmission and at the time of Magic&#039;s infection an extremely rare event.&#160;&#160; Kindred was writing in response to rumors circulating at the time and to my understanding part of the purpose in writing the article was if the rumors were accurate Johnson was continuing to stigmatize gay and bisexual men by his insistence he had contracted HIV through heterosexual activity.&#160;&#160; That being said, Kindred also wrote this in response to the comments, which are valid criticism, generated by this article.

If I could take back anything I&#039;ve ever written, it would be those three or four paragraphs at the end of the Johnson-comeback column. Not that they were a lie. Not that they were fiction. Not that they were incorrect in their use of the day&#039;s data. Not that I didn&#039;t believe what I wrote. But they had no place in a basketball column. More important, they were insensitive to Johnson&#039;s circumstances. They also offended colleagues I respected, among them some who had friends dead of AIDS.

http://sportsjournalism.org/sports-media-news/a-look-back-at-a-careers-worth-of-hatpins-in-the-eyeballs/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kindred was not incorrect in the estimation of the odds of female to male transmission of HIV.&nbsp; It is a much less prevalent form of transmission and at the time of Magic&#039;s infection an extremely rare event.&nbsp;&nbsp; Kindred was writing in response to rumors circulating at the time and to my understanding part of the purpose in writing the article was if the rumors were accurate Johnson was continuing to stigmatize gay and bisexual men by his insistence he had contracted HIV through heterosexual activity.&nbsp;&nbsp; That being said, Kindred also wrote this in response to the comments, which are valid criticism, generated by this article.</p>
<p>If I could take back anything I&#039;ve ever written, it would be those three or four paragraphs at the end of the Johnson-comeback column. Not that they were a lie. Not that they were fiction. Not that they were incorrect in their use of the day&#039;s data. Not that I didn&#039;t believe what I wrote. But they had no place in a basketball column. More important, they were insensitive to Johnson&#039;s circumstances. They also offended colleagues I respected, among them some who had friends dead of AIDS.</p>
<p><a href="http://sportsjournalism.org/sports-media-news/a-look-back-at-a-careers-worth-of-hatpins-in-the-eyeballs/" rel="nofollow">http://sportsjournalism.org/sports-media-news/a-look-back-at-a-careers-worth-of-hatpins-in-the-eyeballs/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clay Landon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
Dear Robert,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylvUGJIi_w

Peace,

Clay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Robert,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylvUGJIi_w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylvUGJIi_w</a></p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Clay</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Knilands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Knilands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are far from the only one offering some testimonial to a name before tossing a dart.

&quot;Oh, the cliche about &quot;thanks for playing&quot; drenched as it always is in sarcasm before a triumphant storm-off? Never, ever gets old!&quot;

That was awesome, BTW. I refer to the &quot;thanks for playing&quot; statements as Internet victory laps. They&#039;re pretty common these days. Here, the Kindred supporters are running them, even though they haven&#039;t really won anything. Albom still has the award. Nothing has changed.

In today&#039;s sports journalism world, we have too many lap-runners and too few meet-winners. The lap-runners sit on the warm bus and wait for the meet-winners to do the work. Then, long after the victorious teams have left, the lap-runners come out and stumble around the track. It makes them feel better, but it changes nothing.  

Finally, the &quot;see you in hell&quot; cliche is tired and needs to rest. I prefer: &quot;See you on the other side, Ray.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are far from the only one offering some testimonial to a name before tossing a dart.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, the cliche about &#8220;thanks for playing&#8221; drenched as it always is in sarcasm before a triumphant storm-off? Never, ever gets old!&#8221;</p>
<p>That was awesome, BTW. I refer to the &#8220;thanks for playing&#8221; statements as Internet victory laps. They&#8217;re pretty common these days. Here, the Kindred supporters are running them, even though they haven&#8217;t really won anything. Albom still has the award. Nothing has changed.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s sports journalism world, we have too many lap-runners and too few meet-winners. The lap-runners sit on the warm bus and wait for the meet-winners to do the work. Then, long after the victorious teams have left, the lap-runners come out and stumble around the track. It makes them feel better, but it changes nothing.  </p>
<p>Finally, the &#8220;see you in hell&#8221; cliche is tired and needs to rest. I prefer: &#8220;See you on the other side, Ray.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Landon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As long as you brought it up, Clay.
What Dave wrote as regards Magic was incorrect.
What Mitch wrote as regards the Michigan State players was A LIE.
Thank you for playing.&quot;

Oh, the cliche about &quot;thanks for playing&quot; drenched as it always is in sarcasm before a triumphant storm-off? Never, ever gets old! But if you don&#039;t mind, I&#039;d like to play a little more. 

Here&#039;s Kindred, from Thomas Bonk via LA Times: &quot;&lt;em&gt;He said unprotected heterosexual sex did it,&quot; Kindred wrote. &quot;Numbers say that&#039;s unlikely. One study says the odds are one in 500 even if a man uses no condom and his partner already has the virus. . . . A man is hundreds of times more likely to acquire HIV by homosexual contact or by using dirty hypodermic needles. 
&lt;/em&gt;
(Dave? If you&#039;re out there, I&#039;d love to know your source for the above information which every doctor with a brain might just take issue with.)

And more: &lt;em&gt;&quot;It is forgivable for a man to hide such activity--if no one else is hurt by his behavior. But it is reprehensible if a man serving his self-interest helps create a frightening lie that causes research money to be diverted from more critical fields.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, Charles, Kindred was &quot;incorrect&quot;. He assumed something that wasn&#039;t true which led to his being &quot;incorrect.&quot; His assumption was based on (ahem) bovine scatology which led to him being &quot;incorrect.&quot; Which makes him &quot;incorrect&quot; morally and &quot;incorrect&quot; professionally.&#160; But at least he didn&#039;t lie. 

And Knilands? Not for nothing but *if* you think my praise for Pierce constitutes knee-pad wearing than I don&#039;t want to be anywhere near your perverted imagination and would add that you can go straight to the home of Hades, do not pass Go. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;As long as you brought it up, Clay.<br />
What Dave wrote as regards Magic was incorrect.<br />
What Mitch wrote as regards the Michigan State players was A LIE.<br />
Thank you for playing.&quot;</p>
<p>Oh, the cliche about &quot;thanks for playing&quot; drenched as it always is in sarcasm before a triumphant storm-off? Never, ever gets old! But if you don&#039;t mind, I&#039;d like to play a little more. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s Kindred, from Thomas Bonk via LA Times: &quot;<em>He said unprotected heterosexual sex did it,&quot; Kindred wrote. &quot;Numbers say that&#039;s unlikely. One study says the odds are one in 500 even if a man uses no condom and his partner already has the virus. . . . A man is hundreds of times more likely to acquire HIV by homosexual contact or by using dirty hypodermic needles.<br />
</em><br />
(Dave? If you&#039;re out there, I&#039;d love to know your source for the above information which every doctor with a brain might just take issue with.)</p>
<p>And more: <em>&quot;It is forgivable for a man to hide such activity&#8211;if no one else is hurt by his behavior. But it is reprehensible if a man serving his self-interest helps create a frightening lie that causes research money to be diverted from more critical fields.&quot;</em></p>
<p>Yes, Charles, Kindred was &quot;incorrect&quot;. He assumed something that wasn&#039;t true which led to his being &quot;incorrect.&quot; His assumption was based on (ahem) bovine scatology which led to him being &quot;incorrect.&quot; Which makes him &quot;incorrect&quot; morally and &quot;incorrect&quot; professionally.&nbsp; But at least he didn&#039;t lie. </p>
<p>And Knilands? Not for nothing but *if* you think my praise for Pierce constitutes knee-pad wearing than I don&#039;t want to be anywhere near your perverted imagination and would add that you can go straight to the home of Hades, do not pass Go.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, no one literally took a dump on him, as far as I know. That would be rude.

And if this were a case of professional jealousy at work, as you&#039;ve so wrongly suggested, you&#039;d see the knives come out every time someone won the Red Smith. You don&#039;t see that -- you&#039;ve never seen that before, in fact -- because no one has a bad thing to say about Jim Murray or Mary Garber or W.C. Heinz. This award, until this year, was reserved for the giants of our profession. That&#039;s why you (nor I) won&#039;t ever have to worry about being so honored, and that&#039;s why we&#039;re upset.

And Zach, get out now. Good journalists care. That you already don&#039;t tells me exactly how far you&#039;re going to go.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, no one literally took a dump on him, as far as I know. That would be rude.</p>
<p>And if this were a case of professional jealousy at work, as you&#039;ve so wrongly suggested, you&#039;d see the knives come out every time someone won the Red Smith. You don&#039;t see that &#8212; you&#039;ve never seen that before, in fact &#8212; because no one has a bad thing to say about Jim Murray or Mary Garber or W.C. Heinz. This award, until this year, was reserved for the giants of our profession. That&#039;s why you (nor I) won&#039;t ever have to worry about being so honored, and that&#039;s why we&#039;re upset.</p>
<p>And Zach, get out now. Good journalists care. That you already don&#039;t tells me exactly how far you&#039;re going to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to have a comment locked &#160;in moderation, too (several days now). 
Odd way to run a media-related, university website.
It would appear that Dave Kindred&#039;s column has served as an opportunity for everyone who has ever had a beef with Mitch Albom personally, or about his ethics, or about his writing style, or about his success, to literally take a dump on him.
That may not have been Kindred&#039;s intent (likely not), but it as been the result. And APSE, which honored Albom with its highest award, has been party to all this.
All I can say is I hope I&#039;m never so honored.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have a comment locked &nbsp;in moderation, too (several days now).<br />
Odd way to run a media-related, university website.<br />
It would appear that Dave Kindred&#039;s column has served as an opportunity for everyone who has ever had a beef with Mitch Albom personally, or about his ethics, or about his writing style, or about his success, to literally take a dump on him.<br />
That may not have been Kindred&#039;s intent (likely not), but it as been the result. And APSE, which honored Albom with its highest award, has been party to all this.<br />
All I can say is I hope I&#039;m never so honored.</p>
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